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Home Schooling or Home Educating?

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I hate schoolwork. I love to learn, but I hate inapplicable learning. I’ll never forget the time Dan insisted on showing me some process involving trouble-shooting a computer program I had never used and thought I would never use. I really did not want to watch and was quite vocal in declining, but Dan urged me to learn, “just in case…” I wish I could say that I submissively observed, got caught up in the process, and have now expanded my credentials to include the title Computer Programmer. In reality, I stood behind Dan to watch, my eyes glazed over and my rebellious heart complaining about what a horrendous waste of time this was. Dan and I have talked about this incident a number of times over the years, and we have found it so insightful in motivating our children.

Our children love to learn, but when the learning becomes difficult, their “want to know” is influenced greatly by their “need to know.” This year the children have decided to pool their resources from warehouse work and begin farming. Although Dan and I will still own the land, they are footing the bill for the barn, chicken coop, fencing, and animals. If all goes according to plan, by the end of the year we will have added to Solid Rock Farm three Babydoll sheep, one horse, two miniature donkeys, and a flock of chickens. While it may look as if we are just having fun, consider for a moment the educational value of this decision.

They have spent hours trying to hammer out a budget for affording this undertaking. Grandiose plans have been scaled back after the numbers have been crunched. A lot of research­—reading–is going into the decision-making process. These are not children’s books, but are books and journals written for adults, with terminology we have never heard of, so their reading and vocabulary skills are improving. Even the catalogs are expanding our vocabulary as we puzzle over the differences between Snaffle and Kimberwickes bits. In addition, their writing abilities are positively reflecting the breadth of the materials they read. Correspondingly, we recognize that from nutrition to medication, successful farms involve an intimate knowledge of science. So what are we missing? Well, we’d have to work pretty hard to cover all they should know for history and geography and we do place a high value on foreign languages. Towards that end, and to ensure that our children have at least a nodding acquaintance with what others perceive as basic education, we spend approximately one to two hours a day in formal academics. With four hours a day at the warehouse, these few hours sitting and learning can almost seem like recess to them!

So what is the difference between home schooling and home educating? You are home schooling if your children’s learning is centered around what your state, neighbor, or cousin says that they should be learning. Home educating, on the other hand, is taking the initiative to prepare a home that is rich in learning opportunities. Minimize the trivial, emphasize the practical.

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How to Pick a Curriculum

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Some years ago, when we had only three children and traveling was more thinkable, we attended a number of home education workshops and conventions. It was at one of these conventions that a fellow vendor, but not fellow home educator, made the following comment: “Homeschoolers are a fickle bunch. They buy what is new, and are suckers for any fad that comes along.” He shared this in a lip- smacking sort of way, his eye on the dollars to be made. We, on the other hand, as home educators, were not very happy about his assessment and began pondering a defense. But the more we considered the accusation, the more we had to agree with him. As the years passed and more and more vendors entered the home school arena, the original allegation was substantiated many times over. How many educational “pet rocks” do we have to be suckered into before we ask, “How should I pick a curriculum that genuinely meets the needs of my family?” How about a few thoughts from an inside source?

Set goals.
Before evaluating curriculum, be sure you know what your goals are. Do not list third grade math as a goal. Instead list thorough knowledge of multiplication tables, and a rudimentary grasp of fractions. Be as detailed as possible. Then compare your goals with the proposed curriculum. While some of you will need to be accountable to your state for some objectives, be sure you do not become enslaved to the whims of friends, family, and other peer groups.

Determine learning styles.
Your hands-on learner will struggle with flash cards, but your visual learner will thrive with them. Everyone can learn in a variety of ways, but when under stress, everyone functions best within their own modality. Whenever we are learning something new, we are under stress. Knowing how your child learns best will enable you to choose a program that will present both of you with the least amount of anxiety, and will allow him the greatest amount of growth. Investigate programs with your children’s learning styles in mind.

Stay with what works.
Educational supply journals are full of marketing gimmicks and educational equipment companies are repackaging duds, all with the goals of selling to the inexperienced and easily intimidated home teacher. What works in a classroom can be totally unsuitable for a home school setting. Most school programs must use a lot of busy work so that the teacher has time to attend to paperwork or the other 30 students. Time is too valuable for both you and your child to be spent doing this type of grunt work. Likewise, just because a product is new, does not make it better. Even if a reviewer, including myself, finds a product outstanding, that does not mean that your child will benefit from its use. Is your child making the kind of progress you are comfortable with? Does the approach take into account your child’s learning style? Is the subject matter challenging but not tear-provoking? Does it fit within your budget? Does it meet your family’s standard for content? If you answered yes to the majority of these questions seriously ask yourself, “Why am I thinking of changing? What needs will be met by the new curriculum which my current program cannot meet?”

Our goal isn’t that you buy our curriculum.
At The Timberdoodle we sell only what we deem the finest. But what is best for our family may be totally unsuitable for yours. We invite you to look beyond the glitter and glimmer, beyond the reviews and recommendations, and consider goals, learning styles, and needs. It has been said that advertising and catalogs exist solely to promote a spirit of discontent. If that is the case, then The Timberdoodle embraces an unconventional aim. We want you to be successful at teaching your children, with or without our products.

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Our Mother’s Day gift to Mom

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Our mom is hard to shop for. She doesn’t like flowers, and she is determined to eat healthily, so a box of chocolates wouldn’t be a blessing for her. What else can we do for Mother’s Day? Breakfast in bed? No. A day shopping? No, she doesn’t enjoy shopping. A cleaning supply, such as a vacuum? No, if we need one, she will research and purchase it herself.

So then, what are we to do? Thankfully, we can just ask Mom what she wants (after all, she doesn’t like surprises). She requests hours.

Back in the good old days, when we misbehaved, we would sometimes receive “extra jobs” that correlated with whatever our wrongdoing was. These were chores that no one was ordinarily assigned to, generally odd jobs that only had to be done on occasion. I guess we’ve matured with age, because none of us have been assigned an “extra job” in years. But good behavior doesn’t make clutter, dirt, or projects go away.

Now, on her birthday and Mother’s Day, Mom usually requests our time. We give her a set amount of hours we commit to work for her, perhaps 50 hours between the five of us kids. Back when Mom owned alpaca geldings, her hours might go to shearing them, moving them from field to field, or whatever care they needed. This time, her hours will likely go to cleaning out the hummingbird feeder, assembling furniture, or whatever she says she is “too feeble, short, or lazy to do”.

Now, I hope you don’t think we are dreadfully selfish, that we wouldn’t simply do a project for Mom whenever she wants us to. But the truth is, in our family, things tend to get put off indefinitely. So what Mom is really getting is a little more assurance that we might actually follow through and finish what needs to be done!

So, what are you doing for your mom this Mother’s Day? Is it something conventional, or a bit wacky? We’d love to hear what you have planned – join the conversation on Facebook!

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Career Planning for Your Homeschooled High School Students, 9 Tips and Thoughts

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A GED Isn’t Worst Case!
In our family, a GED defines graduation and not a diploma. I know that most people hear “I have a GED.” and think dropout, unwed mother, or possibly “did time.” But before you become too alarmed, keep in mind that we look at things from an employer’s point of view. In our experience a high school diploma primarily means that the young person did their time in class. While showing up is important, it is just the beginning of what we expect from our employees! A GED requires some basic proficiencies in math, writing and reading comprehension – skills we’ve sadly seen lacking among some high school graduates!

College Should Be Intentional
College costs are astronomical and jobs are not guaranteed even with a “good” degree, so many of the over eighteen million people in college are wasting their time and money. Don’t let your child be one of them. College, like all learning, should be done for a purpose. If you need training only received in a college setting, or cannot go into the field God has wired you for without a college degree, you should be thinking about college. If not, you should ask yourself if this is really your best option.

On The Job Training Is Legit
I began working for Timberdoodle as a preschooler fetching items or carrying boxes out to the UPS stop. Over the years I gradually worked through the ranks at the warehouse and the office to the point now where I like to brag that I get paid to learn! I have learned a lot about many different programs, and would feel comfortable using them to generate extra income were God to bless me with my own family. More than that, I have become the primary Complete Curriculum manager/curriculum advisor. Mom still oversees all of that, and I can’t imagine tackling a project like that without her wisdom and years of experience, but I have had the privilege of implementing it all, writing all of the guides and answering complex questions I never could have dreamed up!

Entrepreneurs Encouraged
In our family that meant that a portion of each of our incomes was pooled into the Solid Rock Farm account and used to run a farmette. We learned a lot about raising animals, pricing, yield, unexpected costs, working hard, and enjoying God’s creation. Whether your child is interested in repairing computers or a housecleaning venture, encourage him to invest his time, talent and treasure in his own company. It may fail (We long ago abandoned any hope of making a profit in raising livestock here!) but the lessons he has learned will serve him lifelong.

Plan Early
Some places will want a high school transcript, others rely heavily on a SAT score, essay, portfolio, resume or a career-specific test. Find out what you’ll need, and buckle down to get it done. Talk to the leading people in your chosen industry, get an appointment with the college advisor, read the best books of the industry, find the professional magazine/blog to join and learn, learn, learn. Ask what your options are, how they got to where they are, what they would do in your shoes, what should you be reading or doing now. Take notes, rough out a plan, then get to work on it.

Plan Well But Also Get To Work
Some people get lost in a never ending planning session and never get around to their goals. Others could have saved months of work by making a simple phone call and discovering that those credits wouldn’t transfer. Try to strike an appropriate balance.

Go With Your Skills
Some people grow up knowing what they want to pursue, and actually being good at it. Others are at a loss where to start. Think through your child’s strengths and weaknesses honestly. The teen who hates to read, shouldn’t plan on becoming a doctor – do you want a doctor who doesn’t stay up to date on current studies? The one who loves working outdoors shouldn’t make their first choice of work web design. On the other hand, a compassionate person who loves people will be good as an EMT, teacher, or nursing home care provider.

Volunteer Now
We strongly recommend finding a need in the community that he can meet and letting him practice his skills there. The future chef may want to volunteer at the soup kitchen, while administrative types may find a local nonprofit that needs help. Our own family loved volunteering for the community hospital and local fire department.  If you are at a loss, just start meeting needs in your own church/neighborhood. Assign it as part of the schoolwork if that helps – public schools do, why not you? One of the biggest blessings from this is that he will gain insights into the workforce and what he loves/hates doing. For instance we were shocked to find out how much paperwork has to be done in the fire department; can you imagine if you spent years training for a job only to find out it wasn’t what you thought?

Don’t Waste Your Life
Most importantly, keep the big picture in mind when evaluating career options. Future Dads especially need to ensure that they can financially support the family. But life isn’t about money, and he needs to realize that early. Does your career glorify God? (Doing justice, showing mercy, undoing the curse…) Are you doing what you have been wired for, or just what is easy or seems financially prudent? Business can and should be done to the glory of God, don’t overlook that at any stage of planning!

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A Poem From Our Grandpa

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Happy National Poetry Month!

 

Today we share with you one of our Grandpa’s poems, Sunset at Sea. This poem was one of several of his poems read at his 90th birthday celebration several weeks ago. It was written about the time Grandpa first started writing poetry, while he was in the Navy during World War 2. In time, it became a tradition for Grandpa to compose a poem for each grandchild and great-grandchild on their birthday. Over the years, Grandpa has composed scores of poems, with topics from garage sales, to Christmas, to a visit to the dentist!

 

SUNSET AT SEA

 

If I could just express the beauty of this sunset –

I would describe the picture as clouds, and sun, and sea met.

So beautiful was it – so glorious to behold –

The sky all painted bright in red and blue and gold.

 

That great round sun sinking down so low,

And setting all the clouds around aglow.

The edges were all tinted with a special hue

-Against a background of the softest blue.

 

Each moment as the sun dropped lower still

The color scheme kept changing – till,

The sun slipped right from sight.

The day had gently changed to night.

 

Yet in the sky some colors lingered on –

For just a moment longer and then were gone.

Another day had ended – I gave a little sigh –

I knew that all was well and God was nigh.

 

 

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I’m looking for the very best curriculum for my dyslexic son…

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I’m looking for the very best curriculum for my dyslexic son. He is going into the 4th grade. He doesn’t read on grade level so I’ve been reading everythng to him. Please let me know what you have to offer.
Thank you,
Resa

Before I answer your question specifically, I have to mention that we have been very impressed with a local OVD (I think that is the right acronym), a doctor who specializes in vision therapy and addressing some of the root causes of dyslexia and other issues. I know you are not anywhere near local, but the video here gives you an idea of what a good clinic looks like and how it can work: http://www.hopecliniconline.com/you_tube_hope_clinic.php If this looks like it might possibly be helpful, then here is a link to the mainstream site so you can find a close doctor: http://covd.org/ I realize you may already be doing this, but just in case it might prove helpful…

As far as 4th grade curriculum goes, we typically recommend our core curriculum, here:

http://www.timberdoodle.com/Complete_Homeschool_Curriculum_Fourth_Grade_p/999-0400.htm

I actually think this could be a very good fit for your son. Both science and history are designed as read-aloud programs with accompanying activities/experiments. Teaching Textbooks Math is computerized and therefore he can listen to all the lessons. The language arts programs all feature short, manageable lessons which will address necessary skills without being overwhelming. There is also a short daily math word problem and geography lesson – again, being brief will likely help ease frustration. We even include 3 graphic novels, making reading more fun (and providing context in an age-appropriate way) and Thinking Putty to manipulate while you read.

There are 2 things I would consider changing though. Thinking skills is covered by Building Thinking Skills book 2, but if he hasn’t done any of this series yet, I would definitely go back and start with book 1. He won’t find it babyish, and the visual portions in particular will likely be foundational for him.

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Meet the 2011 Timberdoodle Models!

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Ana & Abi

Ana, 5, & Abi, 1
Our featured cover child, Ana is adopted from Kazakhstan and her adorable sister is from Taiwan. We first got to know them through a mutual friend, and were so excited with them when Abi finally came home!

 

 

Andrew & David

Andrew, 13 & David, 12
The youngest sons of our long-time friends, we were so glad that Andrew and David could be a part of this year’s photo shoot!

 

 

Annora

Annora, 3
Annora’s family is part of a new local church where some of us volunteer once a month to help out with childcare. This was Annora’s first time participating in a photoshoot with us, and she did awesome!

 

 

Darius, Bethany, and Nathaniel

Bethany, 13, Nathaniel, 7, and Darius, 5
Bethany, age 13, comes to our weekly community group with her older sisters, brother-in-law, and nephew. Her two little brothers are Nathaniel, age 7, and Darius, age 5.

 

 

Danielle

Danielle, 8 months
At eight months old, this little darling “talks” quite a bit! Danielle has been coming to our weekly community group since before she was born.

 

 

Caleb & Scion & Connor

Caleb,11, Scion, 9, and Connor (nearly)5
These three brothers are veteran Timberdoodle posers, appearing in last year’s catalog, as well as several vodcasts. They attend our church together with their parents and their sweet baby brother.

 

 

Claire, Isabelle, and Katherine

Claire, 8, Isabelle, 6, and Katherine 2 ½
Our cousin’s wonderful daughters, these girls love homeschooling! Whether at work or at play, they are always full of fun and were a blast to have in the studio!

 

 

Hayden and Devyn

Devyn, 3 & Hayden, 1 ½
Our family has been babysitting these happy girls on a regular basis for almost a year now.  They bring lots of laughter to our lives!

 

 

Eliana

Eliana, 22 months
The youngest daughter of employee Nehemiah, Eliana was the first non-Deffinbaugh to be pictured in our catalog.

 

 

Elisha

Elisha, 10 months
This sweet little boy is a man of many faces – we are constantly entertained by his amusing expressions. Many of Elisha’s aunts and uncles are also pictured in the catalog!

 

 

Ezekiel

Ezekiel, 11
Ezekiel is the younger son of employee James. In addition to his work here, James is one of the co-pastors of the church many of the children came from.

 

 

Grandpa D

Grandpa, 90
This may be the most sentimental picture for us, as we were so very excited to be able to have Grandpa pose with his Journible. He uses it to practice his writing, since he has had trouble since his stroke. And those are his great-granddaughters that he is posing with!

 

 

Hannah

Hannah, 16
Hannah is amazing at drawing, photography, and all sorts of art. So no, we did not merely pose her with someone else’s art; that really is her original drawing that she did ahead of time just for us.

 

 

Jotham

Jotham, 9
The youngest child and only son of employee Daniel, Jotham is nine-and-a-half years old. You have probably spoken with Daniel on the phone, and it is quite possible that you have even confused him with Dan, the boss!

 

 

Joseph, David and Jonathan, Joy, Timothy

Joy, 13, Timothy, 12, David and Jonathan, twins age 9, and Joseph, 7
When my sister Hope volunteered at the local Christian school’s Kindergarten classroom for several years, Joy and Timothy were two of the students! They are now homeschooled together with their younger brothers.

 

 

Judah and Cohen

Judah, 4 & Cohen, 3
Judah and Cohen’s dad has helped lead a small church together with our employee James and several others. Judah and Cohen also have a younger brother.

 

 

Lydia

Lydia, 21 months
This darling red-head is another member of the same church. She also has an older brother and sister.

 

 

Megan, Alison, and Jenny

Megan, 11, Alison, 7, Jenny, 6
We met these wonderfully poised young ladies through church, and have loved watching them grow up. They were part of last year’s photo shoot too, so you probably recognize them.

 

 

Zechariah, Julianna, Jonathan, and Benjamin

Zechariah, 10, Julianna, 8, Jonathan, 7, Benjamin, 4
We’ve known this family a long time as well – their dad used to lead the singing at our church!

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How to Get the Most Out of a Homeschool Conference

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Homeschool conventions can be either a blessing or a blight to home educating families. Notoriously expensive to attend, what with registration, transportation, and hotel fees, many families find that the cost to merely walk though the convention door can amount to hundreds of dollars. Is it worth it? How can you get the most out of a homeschool conference?

Homeschool conferences offer two enticements: speakers and vendors. You will be miles ahead in making a financially prudent decision by knowing who is attending. While we can’t speak impartially to the value of attending just for the speakers – we have heard both engaging and disturbing presentations – as a vendor we do have a few tips for making your trip worthwhile. Knowing how to organize yourself ahead of time, and how to manage your experience while there, will help make the most of any conference you attend.

Before the Conference

The extensive collection of exhibit booths can be overwhelming if you walk into a conference unprepared. But for conference-goers in 2011, pre-conference preparation is considerably easier than it’s ever been. Before any homeschool conference, get on the website and scan the vendor list. Some conferences make it super-easy by hot-linking to the exhibitor’s website. Use those links to get an idea of what that vendor has to offer.

Make a list of the types of materials you will be looking for to meet the instructional needs of each of your children. Then refer back to the exhibitors list to identify the exhibitors that stock those items. If there is a critical component that you would like to examine, consider contacting the vendor a few weeks in advance and asking if that product could be there for your hands-on evaluation.

Before you leave for the conference, write down questions you want to have answered. It’s easy to forget things when you’re rushed or excited.

Think about what supplies would make your life easier at the conference; return-address mailing labels to use in filling out forms, note pads, post-its, pens, pencils, highlighters, a permanent marker, paper clips, rubber bands, and a calculator can all prove helpful.

If you want to maximize your opportunities to meet and socialize with other homeschoolers, book your rooms at the conference hotel. Being on the premises increases the number of casual encounters you could benefit from. Some of the best conversations can be had in a hotel lobby or breakfast nook. Conference hotels will be a budget-stretcher, but the chance for fellowship and the convenient location make this appealing.

Finally, make sure you know exactly how to get to the conference facility and what on-site parking is available. The driver will very much appreciate your efforts.

At the Conference

Perhaps one of the more intimidating parts of any conference is navigating the Exhibit Hall. This can be either a frustrating or rewarding experience as you learn about the companies and their products. Taking a quick lap around the trade show floor will help you get your bearings, but be sure to double back. Slow down and engage as many vendors as is feasible. The most interesting, useful, and educational moments are often these informal chats with homeschool vendors. Most of us are homeschool veterans and we know what works and what doesn’t.

If you have questions, please don’t be too shy to ask. We are so thrilled that anyone is looking at our stuff, much less asking questions, so ask away! And if you find that the answers are not what you expected, ask for recommendations. If we know of another vendor’s program that would be a better fit for you, we will tell you. We want your homeschool experience to be successful, so ask lots of questions!

Ask about the show specials. With today’s skyrocketing shipping costs, most vendors will be offering specials that you will never see again, because when they don’t have to pay shipping costs they are free to discount deeply. Plus, many of our suppliers who will not let us discount our prices via our website or catalog have authorized us to discount for conferences only. In most cases, the savings you realize by making your purchases at the convention will more than pay for your expenses being there.

Some attendees like bringing a basket on wheels, but our experience has been that many such contraptions are akin to toddlers – rarely going where you want them to go without a fuss. And they can quickly sabotage other shoppers, so many conventions do not allow them. A better alternative is a strong teen that can shuttle purchases to the car – if you have one available to you, take advantage of that blessing!

Finally, look for demos. Not only are they fun to watch, but you can see actual products at work and judge for yourself how useful or interesting they will be for your family.

Exhibit Halls can be an outstanding place for you to examine a great variety of home education materials and engage in personal and insightful conversations, all in one place. So relax and have a good time; we hope to see you there!

Are you the checklist type? Here is a summary for you!

  1. Check out the vendors online and get familiar with what they offer.
  2. Make a list of what you need to find for each of your children
  3. If you really need to see a particular title, contact the vendor to make sure they will be bringing it with them.
  4. Write down questions you’d like answered.
  5. Pack supplies like return address labels, etc.
  6. Consider lodging in the conference hotel if possible.
  7. Pack driving and parking directions in an easily accessible place.
  8. Once you reach the Exhibit Hall, take a quick lap around to see what is there and get the lay of the land.
  9. Now go slowly and systematically. (If it is crowded at the front of the hall, consider making a beeline for the back and starting your circuit there.)
  10. Take the time to talk to as many vendors as is feasible.
  11. Ask questions!
  12. Ask vendors about their show specials.
  13. If possible, recruit a strong teen to shuttle your purchases directly to your car or room.
  14. Keep an eye out for demos.
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Butterscotch Pie

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Happy π Day!
Today is March 14, or 3.14! Why not bake a pie with your children to celebrate this day?

Today we share with you our Grandma’s Butterscotch Pie recipe. Grandpa loves butterscotch pie, and has even requested that it be served for dessert on his 90th birthday, coming up next week!

Pie Crust

3 C flour
1½ C shortening

Put 1 egg in measuring cup – mix with fork add 1 T vinegar and 5 T cold water – add to blended flour and shortening.

Butterscotch Pie Filling

3 Tbls. flour
1 ¼ cups brown sugar
2 egg yolk
1 Tbls. creamed butter
1 ½ cup milk added – gradually beating with the above until well mixed. Cook in double boiler or heavy pan stirring constantly.
Use egg whites for meringue

Meringue

2 egg whites
¼ tsp cream of tartar
¼ cup sugar
¼ tsp flavoring

Beat egg whites with cream of tartar. Gradually beat in sugar and flavoring.

8 – 10 min. 400°

Note: Makes one 8″ pie.

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The Most Famous Cinnamon Roll Recipe

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On birthdays it isn’t uncommon to have these delicious cinnamon rolls requested by the birthday person, sometimes instead of birthday cake! The family story behind the name is that whoever makes the cinnamon rolls claims the privilege of referring to them as (insert baker’s name here)’s Most Famous Cinnamon Rolls.

Most Famous Cinnamon Roll Recipe

Ingredients
½ cup warm water
2 packages yeast
2 tablespoons sugar
1 package instant vanilla pudding
2 cups milk – room temperature
½ cup butter – melted
2 large eggs – beaten
1 teaspoon salt
8 cups all-purpose flour

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1 cup butter – melted
2 cups brown sugar
2-3 tablespoons cinnamon

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4 ounces cream cheese – softened
¼ cup butter – softened
1 teaspoon vanilla
2 cups powdered sugar
2 tablespoons milk

Directions
In a small bowl combine water, yeast, and sugar. Stir until dissolved, set aside.

In large bowl, mix pudding with milk. Add ½ cup melted butter, egg, and salt. Mix well.

Add yeast mixture to pudding mixture and blend well.

Gradually add flour and knead until smooth, adding a little more flour if needed (this is a soft dough).

Place in a very large greased bowl. Cover and let rise until double in size. Punch down and cover and let rise again.

Roll dough out on a large floured surface to a rectangle, about 34” x 21” in size. Brush the 1 cup of melted butter over dough. Combine brown sugar and cinnamon and sprinkle over butter.

Roll dough up and cut into about 20 rolls. Pat each roll as you place it into a large greased pan to keep rolls in shape.

Let rolls rise in a warm place about 20 minutes. Bake in a preheated 350 degree oven for 20-30 minutes, until done.

Beat cream cheese and butter until smooth, beat in vanilla and milk. Add powdered sugar and beat until smooth.

Frost rolls while still very warm.

Serve and enjoy!

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